[poppy]

Well they had both, just saw them again a couple of hours ago filling the wire basket tray thing under one of the buggies with bottles of plonk.
A lot of things that are not allowed by law, are the norm here. We have no real police presence.
We have a few plastics one community beat bobby who I have seen once and only in the day time well away from trouble spots
After dark nothing.
Tony Tiger will say the same I am sure