Glaciers melt 'at fastest rate in past 5,000 years'

[easyg]

Hmn, Interesting sweets, maybe I could help it along as well. Mind you, don't know if there are many nitrates in vodka.

[Sweetpea]

Thats what's in urine. Lots of nitrates, the kidney's job is to rid the body of them.

[easyg]

This coming easter weekend should see a significant reduction then?
Just phoned G/F with suggestion and she retorted, "I hope you don't expect ME to contribute" I replied " nah don't worry, we don't have ladder for you to climb on top of the bin, and anyway, I am not going to fit a toilet seat on for you"

[terrywit]

toying with a saw dust toilet, water barrel, wind turbine, heat exchanger + solar panels for my gaff,

f*ck saving the planet I'am saving for a V8 git2

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Well the thing that causes most waste by far, is packaging. We don't ask for that, but they are threatening to charge us for what we don't create.

The way Incapability Browns Britain is going, I am just waiting to see the first prosecutions of people who actually DO reduce their rubbish/waste, for "suspicion of fly tipping, because you must be putting the rubbish somewhere else", because they do not meet the "Government approved average waste output".

[Hekna]

I feel I have to just clarify - both global warming (and therefore ice melting, wherever it is) and cooling are two perfectly natural occurrences. Us humans are simply enhancing this effect. By looking at environmental archeology it is clear that a sudden increase in global temperatures is followed by a large drop, therefore pushing the climate into a much cooler phase. The current geological period we find ourselves in, the Holocene, is viewed as an interglacial phase in the current ice age - a cooling is inevitable. The scarier thing for me at the moment is that we are at risk of pushing CO levels higher than they have ever been found in environmental records (i.e. ice cores such as GRIP). I think it is very important to do what we can to help reduce the damaging affect we are having on this planet. It does annoy me that so many people develop a NIMBY attitude when it comes to alternative fuels, particularly in the case of wind turbines. I would rather have a dozen of them outside my front door than a nuclear power station. I think governments should be aiming more towards this. Perhaps all new buildings, particularly office blocks, factories etc. should have solar panels incorporated into the design? It infuriates me to walk past office blocks in London at night with almost every single light on. You wouldn't do it at home! As you can see I could go on all day about this issue!!

[poppy]

Well said good for you I couldnt agree more.

Originally Posted by terrywit

still waiting for the new ice age promissed on tomorrws world in the 80's

So am I. Bring back Grange Hill in the meanwhile.

Originally Posted by Hekna

I feel I have to just clarify - both global warming (and therefore ice melting, wherever it is) and cooling are two perfectly natural occurrences. Us humans are simply enhancing this effect. By looking at environmental archeology it is clear that a sudden increase in global temperatures is followed by a large drop, therefore pushing the climate into a much cooler phase. The current geological period we find ourselves in, the Holocene, is viewed as an interglacial phase in the current ice age - a cooling is inevitable. The scarier thing for me at the moment is that we are at risk of pushing CO levels higher than they have ever been found in environmental records (i.e. ice cores such as GRIP). I think it is very important to do what we can to help reduce the damaging affect we are having on this planet. It does annoy me that so many people develop a NIMBY attitude when it comes to alternative fuels, particularly in the case of wind turbines. I would rather have a dozen of them outside my front door than a nuclear power station. I think governments should be aiming more towards this. Perhaps all new buildings, particularly office blocks, factories etc. should have solar panels incorporated into the design? It infuriates me to walk past office blocks in London at night with almost every single light on. You wouldn't do it at home! As you can see I could go on all day about this issue!!

Quite, unfortunately we live in a time where the government thinks they even have control over the weather.

Perhaps Comrade Brown would like to divert our attention to desertification as well? It's been a well know phenomenon since the 1950's.

Originally Posted by von Clausewitz

The way Incapability Browns Britain is going, I am just waiting to see the first prosecutions of people who actually DO reduce their rubbish/waste, for "suspicion of fly tipping, because you must be putting the rubbish somewhere else", because they do not meet the "Government approved average waste output".

They already do this in some boroughs!!! Barnet was the first with £1000 fines for failing to recycle!! They even have 'recycling police' who go through peoples rubbish to identify these thoroughly evil people. There'll be iron statues of comrade Brown all over Brtain before long.