Re cycling

[Haqa]

Originally Posted by Bruv2

I have had another thought.....

Is it not beyond modern technology to collect everything together, off load it at a central point locally. And then with the use of machinery, seperate solids such as glass and metals, washing away solubles such as paper, shredding non solubles into burnable fuel pellets or something to fuel the process ?

No, it isn't. Whats more, there have been experimental systems built in this country and elsewhere which have done just this, but they cost money and while our government is quite happy to take our tax money they are far less happy to spend it on US.

H.

[poppy]

that is being done effectively in some other countries, but it is too logical and makes too much sense for our lot.
If you cant add a tax band to it, or fight a war wit, it wont be done.

Originally Posted by Bruv2

I have had another thought.....

Is it not beyond modern technology to collect everything together, off load it at a central point locally. And then with the use of machinery, seperate solids such as glass and metals, washing away solubles such as paper, shredding non solubles into burnable fuel pellets or something to fuel the process ?

That is exactly what they do in Berlin, and also a few others, Leipzig and Dresden spring to mind, possibly Hamburg as well.

The money they get from companies that buy scrap, and the fuel pellets, means the actual recycling costs more or less nothing.

[poppy]

This is what we need, but we have no chance, if it dont make a big profit it dont happen.
Paying for itself, saving land fill supplying a fuel that could power electricity plants.
The arses in white hall would never go for it, they dont do "effective, works well, helps save planet"
They only do " give us money, we want big bucks, we are greedy bastards"

[Haqa]

Originally Posted by poppy

This is what we need, but we have no chance, if it dont make a big profit it dont happen.
Paying for itself, saving land fill supplying a fuel that could power electricity plants.
The arses in white hall would never go for it, they dont do "effective, works well, helps save planet"
They only do " give us money, we want big bucks, we are greedy bastards"

Exactly.

BFBC (Bracknell Forest Bastards Corporation) put the council tax up when recycling started "to cover the costs..." then started selling the waste "to cover the costs..." (No reduction in council tax, of course). Then they reduced the bin collections from weekly to fortnightly (No reduction is council tax again), and are now threatening to charge (or fine) people if their bins don't close properly... Makes me furious, but try to tackle them on the issue is like trying to attack a nut-house with a banana... They just don't want to hear from "the little people" except on polling day - At all other times we are a source of funding or and ignorable nuisance.

The comment from my councillor "You aren't going to agree with my view point, so I don't see any point in talking to you" is indicative of what British politics has become, and why the turn out on polling day is so low...

H.

[Bruv]

They just don't want to hear from "the little people" except on polling day

You have the answer then.......
Unless of course lethargy stops any realistic alternative candidate standing......why not yourself Haqa ?

[Haqa]

Originally Posted by Bruv2

You have the answer then.......
Unless of course lethargy stops any realistic alternative candidate standing......why not yourself Haqa ?

For whom do you propose I stand? Standing as an independant (especially in this area) even if I were elected, would leave me basically powerless in the face of a 100% Tory council.

There hasn't been an alternative candidate in all the years I've lived here.
I could stand for Labour, but I wouldn't get any votes.

I could stand for the Tories and attempt to derail the party from the inside, but I'm a bit to honest for that kind of subterfuge...

I could stand for the other party, you know, the yellow one, but no one can tell me much about them, at least not without falling asleep. I tried to find an issue on which they've ever taken a stand... and I'm still trying...

That leaves the British National Party. Unfortunately, my job involves doing work for the Police, and it is (illegally, but who are you going to complain to?) not permitted for you to be an active member and do work for the Police.

H.

[Bruv]

Sounds like excuses to me....not reasons.
An Independant can be just that, and should your leanings be toward the Blues, derail is too strong a word, re-direct might be a better term.
Seems a waste of time having the answers, and just sharing them with this motely crew.

[Haqa]

Originally Posted by Bruv2

Sounds like excuses to me....not reasons.
An Independant can be just that, and should your leanings be toward the Blues, derail is too strong a word, re-direct might be a better term.
Seems a waste of time having the answers, and just sharing them with this motely crew.

The last independant ellected in this area was never invited to any council meetings and stood down as he was unable to perform his duties as a result. You can't just attend council meetings, you have to be invited by the council exec (or something), if you aren't, you are stuffed. Most councils don't play these games unless they feel they are in an unassailable position. Round here the tories are (regretably).

I don't only share them here. During my assorted "quiet periods" you don't think I've just been sleeping do you? I am as vocal in my neighbourhood as I am on here (Well, ok, maybe a little more subtle...), if people can be helped to understand that blue isn't the only colour then there may be a chance for an alternative choice. I come here when the frustration with the stupidity of the sheep ellectorate starts to get too much I need reminding that there are people with brains on the planet.

Even you, with whom I share little political common ground, accept there is room for debate... There are people who consider attempting to disagree with their polititians as almost sacreligious.

The crowd theory of collective intelligence (or rather common sense) suggests that the intelligence of any group of people is slightly lower than the lowest IQ of any member of the group... Boy is that true...

H.

[Bruv]

Maybe you are too subtle.
Name one subtle high flying leader....