Multiculturalism an opinion

[Bruv]

Not my thoughts.....ripped from another forum and duplicated here.


I think multiculturalism left the question of whether it's a good or bad thing for dead long ago. It's like global warming: it's here, and we have to deal with it and attempt to minimise its long term effects.

The received wisdom is that multiculturalism feeds the local culture and that a rapid intake of immigrants galvanises the economy. This cheerful pairing of arguments holds that this island's culture has fed on and been informed by successive migrations for two millennia, with the implication that nothing has really changed recently, while a rapidly growing economy requires a large and willing skilled labour force. The problem is that both arguments are bollocks. as they don't take timescales into account.

It's all very well absorbing trickles of Celts, Jutes, Hugenots and whoever over centuries, where the process has time to be organic, but if you introduce large pockets of alien culture over a period of a few years into a mass media society the impact is multiplied, and so is the potential for conflict.

Too pessimistic? Actually there are historic precedents for friction caused by sudden arrivals from abroad, which somehow get ignored by the optimists: they prefer to forget the discord produced by the intrusion of the likes of Romans, Vikings and Normans, and that a large part of the problem with armed invasions is that they are also very speedy cultural invasions. Further, humanity's ingrained tribalism has a tendency to demand that the culture they have known from birth be seen as superior to any it is expected to co-exist with. Put any three people in a room of varying race and creed and eventually they will argue about politics and religion. Now we have whole cities where people from multiple races and creeds are expected to happily co-exist like a big happy family, and that's elephant bollocks - human nature says it ain't gonna happen.

As for high immigration fuelling the economy, it's true that it does so when the economic rollercoaster is being cranked upwards, but when it hits those dips and the unemployment figures start to rise, they become an ecomomic liability, and the pockets of culture they occupy are liable to become more reactive.

All of which makes me wish I was a racist. If I was I wouldn't feel so bad about facing the facts and stating them.

Some of us know who's thoughts they are......and I agree with him

[Sweetpea]

Digging up this old relic, hmmm!

It's all very well absorbing trickles of Celts, Jutes, Hugenots and whoever over centuries, where the process has time to be organic, but if you introduce large pockets of alien culture over a period of a few years into a mass media society the impact is multiplied, and so is the potential for conflict.

I hope conflict happens, I really do.

[Haqa]

Lest we forget...

In the late 1920's and more so in the early to mid 1930's Germany was in a significant economic downturn. They had historically been very generous about who was given leave to remain, and even German citizenship, but when the economy took that final nosedive the camps opened...

We are on the brink of what may be a similar economic event in Britain, made worse by the fact that our Gold reserves were sold off to hide the fact that Gordon Brown couldn't organise a paper round let alone a major national economy... Nett result - The outlook doesn't look too rosey for the British economy, and I wonder if the British population realise how close we are to having a similar set of circumstances to what raised Hilter to power?

Just a thought...

H.

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by Haqa

Lest we forget...

In the late 1920's and more so in the early to mid 1930's Germany was in a significant economic downturn. They had historically been very generous about who was given leave to remain, and even German citizenship, but when the economy took that final nosedive the camps opened...

We are on the brink of what may be a similar economic event in Britain, made worse by the fact that our Gold reserves were sold off to hide the fact that Gordon Brown couldn't organise a paper round let alone a major national economy... Nett result - The outlook doesn't look too rosey for the British economy, and I wonder if the British population realise how close we are to having a similar set of circumstances to what raised Hilter to power?

Just a thought...

H.

It's quite clear to me, that something is going to happen. As you said elsewhere, we are slow to anger, but so many of us are fed up to the back teeth with oppression and our governments obvious preference for the immigrant over us.

The worm WILL turn.

[Haqa]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

The worm WILL turn.

And turn out to be a most venomous and tenacious snake...

H.

[onepommie]

this says it all


The Beginnings.
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the English began to hate
They were not easily moved,
They were icy willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.
Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.
Kippling

[poppy]

The story that caused this to be written is very moving I cant remember what it was called, I think it may have been about Kipling's sister.
The Hate is against the Germans, in the first world war.
But is very true, very English

[Sweetpea]

It is also VERY apt for many people today, and I am certainly one of them.

[Haqa]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

It is also VERY apt for many people today, and I am certainly one of them.

Let us not wait so long that the evil done can not be un-done.

H.

[llwydcoed]

I don't normally post on forums, leaving this to my better half...and he knows who he is...but I wanted to drop by to say thanks for posting this brilliant piece of work by Kipling. It is what I have been saying along...don't piss the British off or they are going to make you damn sorry you did! I too am impatiently waiting for the day....when all hell breaks loose and we claim what is our birth right...OUR COUNTRY, OUR HERITAGE! I'll be there at the start

Thanks for listening..