Zimbabwe Election

[Sweetpea]

Sorry, I added something.

[Sweetpea]

In future I shall just add it to another post

[Bruv]

Mugabe is a tyrant, but his tyranny is much exaggerated and focused on, while worse tyrants who are western friendly are ignored......not only ignored but encouraged.
The economic problem is all down to him ?....
.......the only explanation given for this economic nosedive is Mugabe’s seizure of colonial-era, white-owned commercial farms......

According to one critical observer, Gregory Elich, author of Strange Liberators: Militarism, Mayhem and the Pursuit of Profit, ‘Western financial restrictions made it nearly impossible for Zimbabwe to engage in normal international trade’

The situation is complicated by the fact that the colonialists were white, so any action against the dominant economic force are deemed racist.
In the UK we have the Monopolies Board where they try to stop monopolies (obviously)
How can an African country stop the inequality within their soveriegn borders without upsetting the dominant economic force, that happen to be white ?

May be you think they shouldn't bother.

[Sweetpea]

Mugabe, is possilby the most corrupt, vicious man on the planet. There are few to equal him.

[Bruv]

There is much wrong in Zimbabwe.
There are many problems within Africa.
Many of these problems are purely down to african culture.
Many of the problems are down to Western influences.

If you stand back......look dispassionatley....at the situation....as it stands, taking information from all interested sources, factor in any bias....

Africa cannot be viewed in total isolation.........western influence/interest has been a factor for centuries.
Count in the fracture of tribal zones, the false sectioning of vast areas, the domination by an alien culture that imposed and promoted a superior system, that devastated an ancient way of life, imposed new laws, religions, systems of governance, eradicated what was there previously as inferior.
Consider the suppression of the indigenious population by centuries of colonial rule, layering onto their culture another western one.
Install an economic ruling elite, that is obviously different, that refuses to integrate, that retains the richest parts of the richest continent for itself, with any profit being exported for no benefit to the region that created the wealth.
Install an economic infrastructure based outside the country.

Now bring into that scenario, a struggle to control your own countries resources.

We are witnessing the fight for that control.....
Nobody comes out smelling of roses.
(Said enough to chew over)

[Bruv]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Mugabe, is possilby the most corrupt, vicious man on the planet. There are few to equal him.

Sorry Sweetpea......he is no angel....but you are....with respect...... talking out of your arse.

One name.....Bush.
Body counts dont compare.....by thousands.

[Sweetpea]

Sorry Sweetpea......he is no angel....but you are....with respect...... talking out of your arse.

With respect, Bush at least half way looks after his own.

Mugabe on the other hand:

Violence was nothing new for Mugabe, who famously once declared: “I have degrees in violence.” As many as 20,000 people are believed to have been massacred in the 1980s in his campaign against the people of Matabele-land who had supported Joshua Nkomo, his rival in the independence movement. What was new in 2000 was the international criticism – until the mid 1990s Mugabe was still receiving honorary degrees from around the world and in 1994 was awarded an honorary knighthood.
Elections for parliament in 2000 and 2005, and for president in 2002, were marked by further violence and intimidation. On each occasion, an atmosphere of hope was followed by a sense of anticlimax when results were rigged and nothing changed.
In 2005 it was the cities that had voted most heavily against him and he soon retaliated again. Operation Murambats-vina, a so-called “urban beautification programme”, meant sending bulldozers to demolish vast townships in Harare and elsewhere, destroying the homes of more than 700,000 people.

Has done THAT to his own.


He is right now, corrupting election results in order to retain his murderous stranglehold over the people of Zimbabwe.


With respect Bruv, if all you say is true, why did your wife leave?

Originally Posted by Bruv2

It has an independent judiciary which issues decisions contrary to the wishes of the governing party.’

Is this the same "Independent" judiciary that said the seizure of white farms was illegal a year or two back?

Damn effective that judiciary, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Bruv2

Mugabe is a tyrant, but his tyranny is much exaggerated and focused on, while worse tyrants who are western friendly are ignored......not only ignored but encouraged.
The economic problem is all down to him ?....
.......the only explanation given for this economic nosedive is Mugabe’s seizure of colonial-era, white-owned commercial farms......

According to one critical observer, Gregory Elich, author of Strange Liberators: Militarism, Mayhem and the Pursuit of Profit, ‘Western financial restrictions made it nearly impossible for Zimbabwe to engage in normal international trade’

Without white farmers, they have fuck all to trade WITH.

Originally Posted by Bruv2

There is much wrong in Zimbabwe.
There are many problems within Africa.
Many of these problems are purely down to african culture.

NOOO!!! REALLY???

Count in the fracture of tribal zones, the false sectioning of vast areas, the domination by an alien culture that imposed and promoted a superior system, that devastated an ancient way of life, imposed new laws, religions, systems of governance, eradicated what was there previously as inferior.
Consider the suppression of the indigenous population by centuries of colonial rule, layering onto their culture another western one.
Install an economic ruling elite, that is obviously different, that refuses to integrate, that retains the richest parts of the richest continent for itself, with any profit being exported for no benefit to the region that created the wealth.
Install an economic infrastructure based outside the country.

Just like muslims want in Europe you mean?

I thought you were all FOR that kind of thing?

Or is it only O.K to destroy WHITE culture, in your book?

[terrywit]

did the BNP win any seats?

Do you ever actualy HAVE anything to say, or are you going to be a "one line wonder" ALL your life?