Australia Muslim school rejected

[Bernie]

Originally Posted by Hekna

I always thought sending them off for the summer break in between school years from about 13/14 with the TA at least would teach them all a thing or two. National Service for 18 year olds would still be very welcome.

Think it is to late at 13/14, discipline needs to start and be reinforced from a much younger age IMHO

[Sweetpea]

Chav's are, in my opinion, the fault of PC, they are protected to the hilt from any reasonable prosecution, and they KNOW IT.

Teachers cannot discipline pupils, parents cannot discipline their children, without risking arrest.

It is precisely this that has brought about this 'Lord of the Flies', sort of generation.

Originally Posted by Hekna

I always thought sending them off for the summer break in between school years from about 13/14 with the TA at least would teach them all a thing or two. National Service for 18 year olds would still be very welcome.

Originally Posted by Bernie

Think it is to late at 13/14, discipline needs to start and be reinforced from a much younger age IMHO

Strange.

All I hear here, and in the news paper web pages is calls for "national service","Boot camps", "Work camps".

Yet none of you see the logical outcome if that thinking.

You got RID of the ONLY European politician that HAD all those.

Hitler.

Are you all saying you think WWII was a waste, and that we should some how bring Hitler back from the dead?

And how can you support these measures, yet be anti BNP?

Boot camps are still used in certain states to deal with recidivist 'yoofs'. They usually have an ex RSM in charge who humiliates them a bit then teaches them good behaviour. Good idea I think.

I was thinking more along the lines of "work camps" which seem to get mentioned as a cure for arseholes in hoods, and persistent dollies as well.

These people do not seem to realise that the whole concentration camp system was set up for political prisoners, but MAINLY for the "work shy". Ie, those that refused three work offers, and things like that. Or were seen by their bosses as "lazy". For refusing three job offers, the person would be sent for three months to a "labour camp", which LATER became concentration camps, but the difference was only in name.

Being absent from work without a genuine reason, would get you three to six months.

And THAT started as soon as a person reached the age of 13.

All of which, if they did not know WHO instigated the system they would, or actually DO support wholeheartedly!

Call them a "nazi" and see their reaction.

Problem is Von, you know as well as I do that the British Government would abuse the fuck out of that.

[Bernie]

I never endorsed boot camp, national service or anything else if you read my post. I merely pointed out that disipline should be started much earlier than at 13/14.

Originally Posted by churchill

Problem is Von, you know as well as I do that the British Government would abuse the fuck out of that.

YES. As did the nazis. But the GENERAL U.K public can not see that.

Originally Posted by Bernie

I never endorsed boot camp, national service or anything else if you read my post. I merely pointed out that discipline should be started much earlier than at 13/14.

Sorry Bernie, you were not implicated, rather you helped form a discussion.

NO ONE is to BLAME.

Originally Posted by von Clausewitz

NO ONE is to BLAME.

Can't we collectively accept the blame?

Smart arse.