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She wanted to live like a German, as did Hatin Sürücü. And so again, the same question that was asked when Hatin Sürücü was murdered: "How many more women have to die before this society wakes up?"

At age 16, all Morsal Obeidi wanted was to live the way other girls in Germany do. She paid dearly: Obeidi's brother stabbed her 20 times. Her murder has sparked a renewed debate in Germany about the failure of many immigrant families to integrate into Western society.
Morsal met with Mohammed, her cousin, on the evening of May 15, a Thursday. They were sitting in a McDonald's restaurant. Morsal had only been back in the city for a few months, after a prolonged visit with relatives in Afghanistan. It was spring in Hamburg. As they ate, Mohammed thought about the plan that he was keeping a secret from Morsal. It seemed harmless enough. Mohammed said later that Ahmad, Morsal's brother, had asked him to bring his sister to the Berliner Tor train station. "He said to me: 'I want you to meet Morsal today. Then walk to the Berliner Tor with her. But don't tell her anything. I just want to talk to her."
It seemed harmless enough.
Morsal and Mohammed arrived at the suburban railway station shortly after 11 p.m. They walked around the corner to a small parking lot next to an apartment building, where they sat down to smoke a cigarette. At 11:20 p.m., Ahmad suddenly appeared out of the darkness. Morsal recognized him -- and froze. Ahmad approached his sister and then, without saying a word, began stabbing her. He stabbed her a few times. "I think he must've taken something first. Drugs. Or maybe he got drunk. I tried to stop him, but he pushed me away," says Mohammed.
Ahmad Obeidi, 23, is a strong, athletic young man. Morsal tried to run away, but she stumbled and fell. Ahmad stood over her and continued to stab her, five times, ten times, still silent as he swung his right arm up and down over his sister's body. He seemed intoxicated. The police counted 20 stab wounds, inflicted with such force that Ahmad would later wear a bandage on his right forearm.
Morsal screamed, waking up the residents of the apartment building. Passersby called the police. Ahmad fled to a nearby subway station, and Mohammed followed him. The two cousins boarded a train, where they sat silently across from each other, a killer and his accomplice.
Morsal died.

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The only comment I have is in the opening statement:

How many more women have to die before society wakes up?
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Old 28-05-2008, 12:14
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I don't see any evidence it was an 'Honor killing'. Perhaps she knew something that the brother was worried she'd tell the other guy, like, my brother's as mad as a bucket. Dunno why parents let kids of that age wander about at that time of night anway.
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The "region of peace TM" strikes again.........
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The "region of peace TM" strikes again.........
Hamburg? Bit of a dump imho.
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Old 28-05-2008, 15:00
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REGION of peace???

Don't you mean RELIGION???

As to the "debate in Germany about the failure of many immigrant families to integrate into Western society."

What debate?

May be in the scummy shitebag, maggot eating slime called "reportes" of various "news" papers, or hand wringing liberal tosspots around their dinner tables, but it has not even been mentioned on general T.V, or radio, nor in any of the "serious" press.

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Hamburg? Bit of a dump imho.
Not got the same class as Berlin, I will give you that.

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Not got the same class as Berlin, I will give you that.
Nowhere near Berlin, she's one of Europes best kept secrets. Hamburg I could compare to a new town, presumably because it got bombed to buggery.
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Hamburg I could compare to a new town, presumably because it got bombed to buggery.
And Berlin DIDN'T???

Any way;

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So was it an "honour killing" or was it just a mad man killing a relative?

More importantly though, does it make a difference? Is there ever a situation in which premeditated murder can be condoned?

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So was it an "honour killing" or was it just a mad man killing a relative?

More importantly though, does it make a difference? Is there ever a situation in which premeditated murder can be condoned?

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Too right, what the fuck is 'honour' killing anyway apart from being one of the most obscene oxymoron's every invented?
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Is there ever a situation in which premeditated murder can be condoned?
Albert Pierrepoint - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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